> In April, Mr. Ghalibaf was set to travel to Islamabad to meet with Vice President JD Vance. But Iranian security officials were concerned that Israel would use the opportunity to assassinate Mr. Ghalibaf or Mr. Araghchi to derail the talks, the officials said.
> Iranians sought guarantees from the United States, through Pakistani and Qatari intermediaries, that Israel would not carry out any covert operations targeting the Iranian delegation, the officials said.
> Pakistani fighter jets escorted the Iranian airplanes carrying a delegation of more than 70 Iranians from the border of Iran to Islamabad and back again when the session was over.
> But on the way back to Tehran, an Israeli security threat emerged.
> Iran’s security forces notified the plane carrying Mr. Ghalibaf back to Tehran that they had picked up intelligence that Israel planned to attack the plane and that two Israeli fighter jets had entered Iran’s airspace from its western border near Iraq, the two officials said.
> Mahdi Mohammadi, a senior adviser for Mr. Ghalibaf, who accompanied him to Islamabad, confirmed this account on his social media page. The plane made an emergency landing in the city of Mashhad, Iran’s closest airport to the Pakistani border, and the Iranian delegation traveled some eight hours by land back to Tehran, Mr. Mohammadi and the two officials said.
mullingitover 2 hours ago [-]
It's incredible how badly the US has been dog-walked by both its 'ally' as well as Iran.
"America First" brought to you by "The Peace President"[1].
There is only so much you can do when you've been purchased by mossad.
throwaway85825 2 hours ago [-]
Purchased, blackmailed, threatened, or all 3. There's a lot of tools in the intelligence toolbox.
dribbiy8 35 minutes ago [-]
Not just that, a hugely disproportionate number of American politicians are Jewish. It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic to point out that objective fact.
8note 2 hours ago [-]
im really not convinced israel is an ally, vs a nuclear threat that has had the US by the balls for decades.
who else has attacked the US navy with the US staying hush hush about it?
the_solenoid 2 hours ago [-]
If you frame it as an entity that launders the military industrial complex's desires to test weapons, keep congress beholden, and keep conflicts going forever – then work backwards from there, the allowance of their subversion makes perfect sense, as well as the over the top allegiance of those congresscritters it buys.
Dunno if that is how it works but I have never been able to square the capitulation in our government without that tie. This is also considering the influence of christian z's.
diogenescynic 1 hours ago [-]
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dang 28 minutes ago [-]
Would you please stop posting flamewar comments to HN? We've been having to ask you about this for years:
p.s. It ought to go without saying, but this has nothing to do with the views that you're for or against. It's possible to make your substantive points without breaking HN's rules, so please do so.
grandpajoey 11 minutes ago [-]
I can't help but notice that you said you would ban this account and yet it's here again spreading hasbara.
Their PR machine is amazing in how it's conflated criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism, in a country where religion and state are supposed to be separate (not that we're very good at that, mind you). And they've convinced the world that the Holocaust somehow allows them to perpetrate the same crimes against humanity with impunity.
It's incredibly frustration because the only "reasonable" opinion allowed is full-throated support of Israel or else. There's no allowance for nuance.
wat10000 2 hours ago [-]
You’d think he could have done better, what with all that foreign policy experience from his years on The Apprentice.
eucryphia 29 minutes ago [-]
While the IRGC works out how to eliminate Jews from the planet.
“First they come for the Saturday people”
grandpajoey 13 minutes ago [-]
This is an absurd statement. Israel has been killing innocent people in the region since it was created. Iran is right to stand up to them. Bonus points that as an American they're also standing up for me against the Zionists who manipulate my government and steal my money.
romanhounds 26 minutes ago [-]
lmao IRGC isn't rolling on the US, neither is islam in general if that's where you were trying point to that in the silence.
Hikikomori 2 hours ago [-]
Can't believe that Israel would do something they've done several times already.
diogenescynic 1 hours ago [-]
They killed their own citizens on October 7th just to pump up the numbers. There are recordings made public where Ben Gvir is ordering more killings. I can't stand how our mainstream media completely ignores all of Israel's crimes. Even when Israelis come here to sexual assault people in Las Vegas, or open biolabs, or steal technology... it's always swept under the rug.
CamperBob2 2 hours ago [-]
Launch an unprovoked attack, do it under cover of negotiation, and then attack diplomatic envoys.
Belligerence, perfidy, and I don't even know the term for that last part, it's so unheard-of. We have violated rules of warfare that were already old thousands of years ago.
At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?
sbayg 2 hours ago [-]
When we killed Kennedy. That was the point we should have admitted being the bad gays.
Avicebron 2 hours ago [-]
Are you posting from tel aviv?
CamperBob2 2 hours ago [-]
No, I'm just forced to pay for it. Why do you ask?
2 hours ago [-]
cramer4next 2 hours ago [-]
I didn't think Iran had internet access except through Russian gateways for the wealthy? Are you by chance in the Cali "Little" Iran district?
aaomidi 55 minutes ago [-]
Iran has Internet access friend.
Avicebron 2 hours ago [-]
you got me, oy vey
tanseydavid 2 hours ago [-]
Every time I see a photo of Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran, Abbas Araghchi, I instantly think I am looking at a picture of author Nicholas Nassim Talib (Black Swan, Fooled by Randomness).
Am I the only one?
jLaForest 1 hours ago [-]
You mean again because they already attempted to assainate peace negotiators in Doha months ago
dlubarov 1 hours ago [-]
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bruhlikereally 2 hours ago [-]
Gotta be the most “water is wet” headline I’ve ever read. They literally did this already.
janalsncm 2 hours ago [-]
When you say “water is wet” and someone asks for evidence, now you will have evidence.
throw310822 1 hours ago [-]
We deny with all force this slanderous libel that evil people keep spreading because of their senseless hatred. Water is not just not wet, it's in fact the dryest imaginable substance. We have tested it thoroughly in our laboratories- which as everybody knows are the most advanced in the world- and we have found in it not the slightest amount of wetness. I have personally spoken with the US ambassador about this matter and he reaffirmed the complete trust of his country in the absolute dryness of water.
cramer4next 1 hours ago [-]
I don't necessarily look at a newspaper article as evidence. Especially when all the sources are "A U.S. official". Source quaility maters which is consistent with criminal case law.
> In April, Mr. Ghalibaf was set to travel to Islamabad to meet with Vice President JD Vance. But Iranian security officials were concerned that Israel would use the opportunity to assassinate Mr. Ghalibaf or Mr. Araghchi to derail the talks, the officials said.
> Iranians sought guarantees from the United States, through Pakistani and Qatari intermediaries, that Israel would not carry out any covert operations targeting the Iranian delegation, the officials said.
> Pakistani fighter jets escorted the Iranian airplanes carrying a delegation of more than 70 Iranians from the border of Iran to Islamabad and back again when the session was over.
> But on the way back to Tehran, an Israeli security threat emerged.
> Iran’s security forces notified the plane carrying Mr. Ghalibaf back to Tehran that they had picked up intelligence that Israel planned to attack the plane and that two Israeli fighter jets had entered Iran’s airspace from its western border near Iraq, the two officials said.
> Mahdi Mohammadi, a senior adviser for Mr. Ghalibaf, who accompanied him to Islamabad, confirmed this account on his social media page. The plane made an emergency landing in the city of Mashhad, Iran’s closest airport to the Pakistani border, and the Iranian delegation traveled some eight hours by land back to Tehran, Mr. Mohammadi and the two officials said.
"America First" brought to you by "The Peace President"[1].
[1] https://xcancel.com/WhiteHouse/status/1976081153699508480
who else has attacked the US navy with the US staying hush hush about it?
Dunno if that is how it works but I have never been able to square the capitulation in our government without that tie. This is also considering the influence of christian z's.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28364581 (Aug 2021)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24207111 (Aug 2020)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24195905 (Aug 2020)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18550150 (Nov 2018)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16446553 (Feb 2018)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15459663 (Oct 2017)
p.s. It ought to go without saying, but this has nothing to do with the views that you're for or against. It's possible to make your substantive points without breaking HN's rules, so please do so.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48563886
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48768670
It's incredibly frustration because the only "reasonable" opinion allowed is full-throated support of Israel or else. There's no allowance for nuance.
“First they come for the Saturday people”
Belligerence, perfidy, and I don't even know the term for that last part, it's so unheard-of. We have violated rules of warfare that were already old thousands of years ago.
At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?
Am I the only one?